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Former Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher dies after stroke, aged 87

Post  Sirop14 on Mon Apr 08, 2013 2:06 pm

Former Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher dies after stroke, aged 87

Margaret Thatcher, Britain’s first and only woman Prime Minister, died this morning after suffering a stroke, it was announced today.

Baroness Thatcher, who was 87, won three general elections for the Conservatives and shaped UK politics for a generation. At home, she implemented sweeping reforms to trade unions, defeated the miners in a bitter strike and forced the Labour Party to modernise itself. Abroad, she was dubbed “the Iron Lady”, winning an unlikely war in the Falklands and helping to secure the collapse of the Soviet Union.

Lord Bell, her spokesman and former adviser, said: "It is with great sadness that Mark and Carol Thatcher announced that their mother Baroness Thatcher died peacefully following a stroke this morning."

In a statement Downing Street said she will be given a special ceremonial funeral, similar to those accorded to the Queen Mother and Diana, the Princess of Wales. She had been in poor health for some months and was living at the Ritz Hotel in London so that she could be cared for more easily.

The service will be held at St Paul's Cathedral with a “wide and diverse range of people and groups with connections to Lady Thatcher” being invited. The service will be followed by a private cremation.

The tributes were led by David Cameron, who returned early from a tour of European capitals . He said: "It was with great sadness that I learned of the death of Lady Thatcher. We have lost a great leader, a great Prime Minister and a great Briton."

Even Lady Thatcher’s critics admitted that some of her economic reforms were needed. She came to power after the 1978-79 Winter of Discontent, a wave of strikes which left rubbish piling up in the streets and the dead unburied in some areas. She imposed spending cuts as well as labour market reforms, taking on critics dubbed “the wets”, the moderate Tory ministers she sacked from her own Cabinet. In 1981, she declared that: “The lady’s not for turning,” a phrase that may prove her epitaph and has made the party leaders who followed her reluctant to make U-turns on policy.

Lady Thatcher, known as “Maggie,” won popular backing way beyond the Conservatives’ natural supporters. Even doubters acknowledged she showed strong leadership. But she was also seen as a leader who divided the nation because of the harsh measures she took on the economy. Critics blamed her for writing off huge sections of Britain’s manufacturing industry and allowing unemployment to rise to three million.

The grocer’s daughter from Grantham was the outsider who rose suddenly to become Tory leader when Sir Edward Heath, the former Prime Minister, was toppled by his own party in 1975.

Ironically, she suffered the same fate in 1990, by when she was deeply unpopular after introducing a highly controversial policy, a flat rate poll tax, which saw a duke and a dustman paying the same amount for their council services. She failed to defeat Michael Heseltine in the first ballot when he challenged her for the Tory leadership. Although she vowed to fight on, when she consulted her Cabinet, several members told her she faced defeat and advised her to stand down.

Her influence over British politics continued long after her emotional, tearful departure from Downing Street. She clashed with Cabinet colleagues including Lord (Geoffrey) Howe and Lord (Nigel) Lawson on Europe and their resignations played a part in her downfall. But her Eurosceptic views shifted her party’s centre of gravity to a sceptical position on the issue. The 140 new Tory MPs who entered the Commons for the first time in 2010 were dubbed “Thatcher’s children.”

Nick Clegg, the Deputy Prime Minister, said: "Margaret Thatcher was one of the defining figures in modern British politics. Whatever side of the political debate you stand on, no one can deny that as Prime Minister she left a unique and lasting imprint on the country she served. She may have divided opinion during her time in politics but everyone will be united today in acknowledging the strength of her personality and the radicalism of her politics. My thoughts are with her family and friends."

Ed Miliband, the Labour leader, said of Lady Thatcher: “She will be remembered as a unique figure. She reshaped the politics of a whole generation. She was Britain's first woman Prime Minister. She moved the centre ground of British politics and was a huge figure on the world stage. The Labour Party disagreed with much of what she did and she will always remain a controversial figure. But we can disagree and also greatly respect her political achievements and her personal strength.

"She also defined the politics of the 1980s. David Cameron, Nick Clegg and I all grew up in a politics shaped by Lady Thatcher. We took different paths but with her as the crucial figure of that era. She coped with her final, difficult years with dignity and courage. Critics and supporters will remember her in her prime.”

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Re: Former Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher dies after stroke, aged 87

Post  Sirop14 on Mon Apr 08, 2013 2:07 pm

Margaret Thatcher est morte à 87 ans

Margaret Thatcher, première femme chef de gouvernement et figure majeure de la vie politique britannique, est décédée lundi matin. David Cameron annule une visite à Paris.Correspondant à Londres

L'ancienne premier ministre britannique Margaret Thatcher est morte, lundi matin, à l'âge de 87 ans. «C'est avec une grande tristesse que Mark et Carol Thatcher annoncent que leur mère, la baronne Thatcher, est morte paisiblement ce matin, à la suite d'une attaque», a déclaré lord Tim Bell, son porte-parole et ami de longue date.

C'est la statue du commandeur de la vie politique anglaise qui disparaît. Première et seule femme premier ministre, elle avait remporté trois élections générales, avait été le chef du gouvernement en poste le plus longtemps au XXe siècle, entre 1979 et 1990. Elle avait ensuite été poussée à la démission par une rébellion orchestrée par son ministre Michael Heseltine. Elle fut anoblie en 1992. Depuis, elle est restée la référence obligée du Parti conservateur.

Margaret Thatcher, la femme qui a changé la Grande-Bretagne

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Post  Sirop14 on Mon Apr 08, 2013 11:21 pm

We have been listening to very many great debates , arguments and read a great deal about the Issue of lady Thatcher - the need to make a few notes those individual like FA Rene who we have address about the issues of the coup d'etat in Seychelles - the vast majority of Seychelles, exile and other, the Intelligence service of USA, Britain, France and the USSR do not know the real reason.

""On 28 March 1979, the House of Commons passed a Motion of No Confidence by one vote, 311–310, which forced Callaghan to call a general election that was held on 3 May.[25] The Conservatives under Margaret Thatcher ran a campaign on the slogan "Labour Isn't Working" and won the election.""

Again the issues of Wilson resignation -Barely two years after beginning his second spell as prime minister, Wilson announced his surprise resignation on 16 March 1976, and unofficially endorsed Callaghan as his successor. Callaghan was the favorite to win the leadership, although he was the oldest candidate; he was also the most experienced and least divisive. Popularity with all parts of the Labour movement saw him through the ballot of Labour MPs to win the leadership vote. On 5 April 1976, at the age of 64 years and 9 days, Callaghan became Prime Minister""

The mega challenge had been British colonial independence process, failing revenue and loss of Powers and Markets.

""The new rules permitted new candidates to enter the ballot in a second round of voting should the first be inconclusive, so Thatcher's challenge was considered by some to be that of a stalking horse. Neave deliberately understated Thatcher's support in order to attract wavering votes from MPs who were keen to see Heath replaced even though they did not necessarily want Thatcher to replace him

On 4 February 1975, Thatcher defeated Heath in the first ballot by 130 votes to 119, with Fraser coming in a distant third with 16 votes. This was not a big enough margin to give Thatcher the 15% majority necessary to win on the first ballot, but having finished in second place Heath immediately resigned and did not contest the next ballot. His favoured candidate, William Whitelaw, lost to Thatcher in the second vote one week later (Thatcher 146, Whitelaw 79, Howe 19, Prior 19, Peyton 11).""

The vast majority of those so call experts over the decade of reporting and explaining - there were other important force at play in the greater world which influenced this outcome and her winning the Leadership nomination may be one day one will be allowed to write about - if all the players involved are dead how can anybody write anything.

Given some of the above issues - how we became involved with a number of high calibrated individuals from Continental Europe and British to work towards certain solution and a great deal of issue of her governments and Europe. Including reelections and departure for 10 Downing Str.


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Post  Sirop14 on Mon Apr 08, 2013 11:32 pm

Margaret Thatcher dead: Verdict on her legacy from political friends and foes


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Post  Sirop14 on Tue Apr 09, 2013 11:44 am

We have added a brief list of issues we have worked with then Mrs Margaret - later Lady Thatcher 1977 to date {When anybody have worked, been involved and contributed to so many of the related issues - the announcement - impact upon one person, disjointed and blank feelings - we had known it would come and other just as important we have worked/had similar relation}

In Tirol and later Salzburg, those who understood connection with/to our person, informed events which they could not always understand in Austria, Europe, France, Italy and Britain - particularly after we moved to Salzburg. Including her visit to Salzburg and stay at Osterricher Hof - Sadat and others.

In Vienna - July 1978 on ward to 1981 - the decision on our part not to buy a Health center/Hotel ans the Family had wished, to help find a solution to our issues, our Community in Europe and the Indian Ocean - those who helped and supported us in Vienna - particularly the issue of Prof Dr Michael Hoffman, those from the Austrian Illuminati and the Royal Family - those who had hoped we would go back to Sechelles Seychelles and the Indian Ocean and contribute and help our people - this relation to Britain, France, Italy, Holland, Spain, Portugal, Belgium - then USSR and then COMECON. Then many complex issues of British government - including if/should UNIDO be based in Vienna, OPEC, Atomic energy issues, None Aligned issues, Arab - Gulf region issues - most important the building of then Europe, the workings of the IMF and Financial mess of then Europe from the second world war, the cold War East and West Economic workings. Those special person from Britain who were stationed in Vienna who watched and monitored us. Those who saw to it that after the three failed attempted coup d'etat that we land in London in Exile instead of France.

Well until 1983 - we had trusted something would work out and the we would not have to stay and spend exile in Britain - we had known many other individuals who had shared and given us in sight in their lives about the situation in Britain and how they have been affected. Even my Guardian who had very many highly important Civil Service connections, the Judiciary, Police, Army, Royalty, affluent individuals had not wanted to live in Britain. Hence some of the mega mess/bust-up. Those who are too scared to address them in public. Most important those/ rather re -adoption in different term and those asked to keep an eye on our person.

Those who had got to know of our Austrian brief Training - particularly Prof Hoffman Interdisciplinary Management Institute, greater Europe - Cold war workings, the USSR, the COMECON and USA, India, Pakistan and the Gulf Region. The decision not from London but Europe that Prof Von Hayak becomes her Economic Advisor. Had we taken political asylum in France this would never have happened.

Then Lady Thatcher view of Seychelles government of then President J R Mancham, his families, associates and Ministers, including former Leader of Opposition Mr Gerrard Hoareau and endeavors those who ask our views and insight. No to exclude the working of then Seychelles government of FA Rene. important aspect of then Illuminati workings.

The Lonrho Family - Harrods debacles, business entity, the Dalgety and former East Africa, Zanzibar business entities. Vested interests.

Important issue with Kenya, Uganda, Tanzania, Ethiopia, Sudan and Somalia, Rhodesia, Malawi, Central Africa and Congo, North Africa and Ghana, Nigeria - Biarafra.

The Indian Ocean from Interdisciplinary and Geopolitical point
Most important the issue of BIOT - Diego Garcia/failed attempt in Seychelles those who gave us ideas about building a settlement on BIOT form an International Community what we shared with then Mrs Thatcher and her government.

We have shared/worked issues with her then Office we have lost track over Seychelles, Mauritius, Reunion, Comor, Zanzibar, Sri Lanka - we had to.

The South African issues - they cover a very great deal
In 1981 when we came to London, those form the respective Home Office, Intelligence Service and Police about our involvement with the Pan European Movement -many of then later involved in very High office and special responsibilities of building Europe.

This said those who do not know and have attributed - events and success to her - hear economic formulation, Finance, Strategic issues were already worked out for her, trashed out and presented or addressed to her - those who knew of the issue from her government, Ministers and special high parties. The issue that she would reject outright and get utterly mad about too.

The Idi Amin issues East Africa/Israel

Lebanon issues/Jordan

South African highly Important issues

East Africa the Haile Sallasi debacle and the Mengistu regime, the Bokasa debacle and president Mobotu

Issues relating to India and South Asia

Pakistan and Afghanistan were treated different the military regime, the hanging and Banazir Butho, the /Gandhi Family and all the debacles - high diplomatic and military issues

The issues of Iran then Ayatollah and the Embargo
later Iraq, the war with Iran and the Super Gun issues and the impending Gulf War.

Saudi Arabia and their Royal Families

The restructuring of Financial workings of London - Market and Banking

The issues of the Oil Field North Sea, OPEC and None OPEC countries

Nuclear Power issues

The stationing of US Missile in Britain

Vast issues relating to Ireland North and south

The MSC issues

Radical reworking of the exile/refugee issues in Britain - most important economic linkage discipline as against actual presence of Britain in their respective countries and national resources, politic and economy. Those were some of the greatest associated economic and high management discipline we deployed/contributed to - linkage/coupling and gearing. The involvement of Prof Hayak, Prof Hoffman and a few others.

What about the media and Maxwell saga

The issue of 123 /Regent Str and Country life Enton Hall/Godlaming

The rebuilding of Kingston Upon Thames Town

Wondsworth Town rebuilding

London council and Ken Livingstone

The Miners and Scargill issues

Labour and Mr Neil Kinnock issues

Major Super market debacle and High Street issues M&S, Harrods and some the big names

The start of Richard Bronson

Major EU Agriculture and Fishing issues

Vast amount of USA and British historic diplomatic and Economic issues

Space issues and Scientific issues

The historic Chanel Tunnel Project and Nord Pas de Calais development

The Hong Kong China returning issues

The Argentine, and Latin American issues and the War

Long list of Canadian issues

Those who worked for then IMF, UN and the Feds who know of the issues

What about the Commonwealth

France - British relation had President F Mitterrand been alive, come back to address the many untold /state issues we were associated and involved - - British. The mega Masonic/Illuminati war

France and British military/diplomatic in Africa

That SIROP program

The CERN and WWW issues

Mega IT issues of Britain industry, IMB, Microsoft, Apple and others, Window OS and Linux system.

The SIDA epidemic issues

Latin American Community in Britain

Vast many working of then underground and former East European Communities in Britain.

Car Industry issues - very long list, the John de Loren car issues

Music and Film industry

The Sports, footfall special issues like Imran Khan and very many other personalities

The Fashion industry and perfume industry

Train and post office workings

Britain construction industry

Education sector of Britain

The British and European Royal Family, King Constantine, Greece and Cyprus issues

The Royal wedding , Prince Charles and Prince Andrew, engagements.

Church of England issues

The Vatican and Catholic church

Special Jewish community issues

Special Muslim Community issues

Special Hindu community issues in Britain

Most important he COMECON and then USSR and East Germany and Germany, Austria - it would take a great deal of resources to address the contributions we have made and involved. Many of these individuals and actors are still alive today - yet what has bee written. The split up of Yugoslavia and the war. They had been the best Socialist model.

The privatization of the Russian economy

The privatization of former COMECON

The Treuhand workings of the two Germany

The role of Austria

The role of Italy

Holland and Netherlands issues

Important European issues such as Maastricht and Rome Treaty

The contributions of 87a Victoria Rd - Kilburn - Brent from 1985 to 1991

What about political events in Seychelles, those so call underground and Oppositions. The building of it s core institutions

We have this to say those who had judge we were to young to take such high responsibilities - normally at 45/50 and we were 27/30 years old. What we have gone through - what we have addressed and protested to the EU and UN High Institutions, Court of Justice and International Court.


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Re: Former Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher dies after stroke, aged 87

Post  Sirop14 on Tue Apr 09, 2013 11:50 am

Margaret Thatcher dies: latest

Margaret Thatcher died yesterday of a stroke at the age of 87. Here is all the latest reaction to the death of Britain's first female prime minister.

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Re: Former Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher dies after stroke, aged 87

Post  Sirop14 on Tue Apr 09, 2013 12:06 pm

«Le thatchérisme a sauvé la Grande-Bretagne sur le plan économique»

La Dame de fer et les hommes politiques

Die mächtigste Handtasche der Welt

Vorbereitungen für Beisetzung Margaret Thatchers
Margaret Thatcher wird kein Staatsbegräbnis, aber eine Trauerfeier mit großem militärischen Zeremoniell erhalten, wie es aus der Downing Street am Montag hieß. Die Feierlichkeiten sind für Mitte nächster Woche geplant.


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Glenda Jackson on the death of Margaret Thatcher: I spoke to stop history being re-written

Post  Sirop14 on Thu Apr 11, 2013 11:00 pm

Glenda Jackson on the death of Margaret Thatcher: I spoke to stop history being re-written

Glenda Jackson, the Labour MP who stole the show during Commons tributes to Margaret Thatcher, claimed that messages coming in from the public were ten-to-one in her favour.

Her Commons staff spent today working through 900 emails. Of the first 400 they opened, they counted 372 that supported her attack on the late Prime Minister, the rest against.

She was unrepentant about her attack on the “heinous social, economic and spiritual damage” which she said that Mrs Thatcher had wreaked upon the UK during her premiership, which caused uproar when she delivered it. Many Tories were particularly outraged by her comment: “The first Prime Minister of female gender, OK. But a woman? Not on my terms.”

But Ms Jackson insisted: “I was meticulous in not being personally rude. I didn’t know the woman: I did know the policies. I spoke up because history has been rewritten over the past week. I lived through the Thatcher period. I know what it was like. I know what it was like for my constituents. The reality bore no resemblance to what’s being presented.”

The Guns from Jamaica, East Africa, Zanzibar - Seychelles and Lady Thatcher Military funeral


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Margaret Thatcher protests this weekend to be attended by miners

Post  Sirop14 on Fri Apr 12, 2013 5:20 pm

Margaret Thatcher protests this weekend to be attended by miners

Former miners who say Margaret Thatcher decimated their communities will be joining socialists, travellers, students and anti-capitalist protesters at a demonstration against her legacy in Trafaglar Square on Saturday.

A delegation of ex-miners from Durham is due to attend the protest with the north-east area banner and others are expected to travel from former mining heartlands in Yorkshire and Wales.

The event, due to start at 6pm, being promoted through various Facebook groups, has gathered momentum this week as the row over Thatcher's legacy has turned increasingly sour.

Tensions were ratcheted up on Friday when mayor of London Boris Johnson said police were prepared for outbreaks of disorder. Speaking to LBC Radio, Johnson said: "We live in a democracy where people are entitled to protest, where they are entitled to have fun and do what they want."

However, the mayor became the first senior figure to raise the possibility of violence when he added: "What they can't do is, I think, use the death of an elderly person to begin riot or affray or that sort of thing. So we're getting ready for all that. The police are obviously going to be making sure that if people do break the law they will be properly dealt with."

For police the rhetoric around Saturday's protests and speculation about trouble at those events and at the funeral of Baroness Thatcher are some of the factors they are considering as they assess the scale of challenges they face.


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By John Prescott John Prescott: Why Margaret Thatcher deserves no tribute

Post  Sirop14 on Sat Apr 13, 2013 10:54 pm

John Prescott: Why Margaret Thatcher deserves no tribute as the woman who left Britain bitter, selfish and divide

I despised everything she stood for - she may have been a woman, but in her policies she showed no compassion to the sick, needy and the desperate


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