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History of Madagascar - Bourbon, Isle de France and Isle D'abondance- Sechelles

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Post  Sirop14 Mon Apr 21, 2014 11:20 am

When we are about 7 -8 years old recollect our Grand Father know as Mr Ti Charles, obviously his Father had been name Charles and was Grand Charles, they have been Master Carpenters - the Family had had roots in Madagascar. These would be Family meeting and talking.

Extended Family in Madagascar, Reunion, Mauritius and Sechelles Seychelles today and their Burial/resting place. Beside across France, Canada, Quebec, the USA, South Africa, India elsewhere.

Over the years my/our respective interests, workings, business, diplomatic and cultural relation with and to the Madagascar People/Nation.

When we talk of founding Fathers this imply only those that first settled on St Anne - we imply those Older French Families and Settlers who had lived out in Madagascar the first French settlement in the Indian Ocean, Reunion/Bourbon, Isle de France and came to Sechelles Seychelles to settle their very rich experience and knowledge - of the Indian Ocean Region

Wikipedia is very confusing - those who tend to contribute. When my Grand father related/they talked about the Family and old days we then as little children - there were not no such things as Wikipedia safe the few who kept records and studied such issues of History, collecting books, letters and Manuscript, maps and old documents. Then their own Benchmarks and approach in instance for power, money, prestige and title - the manner they presented the issues, manner they wrote - publicity.

In the History of Sechelles Seychelles however many the University graduates we/the Island and nation have today - the dreadful quality of our history records and those who document and write them.

Or those who write such garbage that because our grand parents had come form Madagascar they must have been natives or Black. {their education approach}

History of Madagascar

In relation to this article - we would have like help did our ancestors/great grand parents for par to f the settlers or the Shipping/Sailor , pirate community and there are two. Quote " In the ensuing two-hundred years, from year 1500, the English and French tried (and failed) to establish settlements on the island.

Fever, dysentery, hostile Malagasy, and the trying arid climate of southern Madagascar soon terminated the English settlement near Toliary (Tuléar) in 1646. Another English settlement in the north in Nosy Bé came to an end in 1649.

The French colony at Taolañaro (Fort Dauphin) fared a little better: it lasted thirty years - it must have started in 1642 - yet those who provide us with little details of the exact date of the French early Settlement . On Christmas night 1672, local Antanosy tribesmen, perhaps angry because fourteen French soldiers in the fort had recently divorced their Malagasy wives to marry fourteen French orphan-women sent out to the colony, massacred the fourteen grooms and thirteen of the fourteen brides. The Antanosy then besieged the stockade at Taolañaro for eighteen months. A ship of the French East India Company rescued the surviving thirty men and one widow in 1674."

Quote" In 1666, François Caron, the director general of the newly formed French East India Company, sailed to Madagascar.[43] The company failed to establish a colony on Madagascar but established ports on the nearby islands of Bourbon (now Réunion) and Isle de France (now Mauritius). This took place much later Yet the below dates from History of Reunion/Bourbon."


History of Reunion/ Bourbon

Quote "1642 The Island, where boats on the road to India are used to put into port, is touched down by the French boat: Saint Louis
1646 The governor of Fort Dauphin (Madagascar) send into exile 12 mutineers to the Island. It is now called Mascarin.
1649 Flacourt, Madagascar governor, takes possession of the Island in the name of the King of France. It gives it the name Bourbon.
Saint Paul becomes the capital city of the Island."

History of Mauritius/Isle de France

Quote " The French government turned over the administration of Mauritius to the French East India Company, but the island remained bereft of Europeans until 1721. Furthermore, until 1735, Isle de France was administered from Île Bourbon, now known as Réunion.[1]"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Governor_of_Isle_de_France_(Mauritius)

http://jmregnier.free.fr/reueng/history.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Seychelles

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Madagascar

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Post  Sirop14 Tue Apr 22, 2014 12:34 am

To think those who taught us History in that Sechelles Seychelles not once telling us that history could/can be very wrong. Because of certain issues have dug into the earliest French arrival in the Indian Ocean - the many article which purport that the Compagnie française des Indes orientales were the first to start settlement the Indian Ocean - since late 1490 those who had sailed to Asia they mist have stopped , spotted and come across some of the Islands - the destruction of archives in Dieppe. Just as with the issues of Jean Cousin refusal to disclose/then reasons and practice, the Vatican/Rome - Avignon, then Pope Powers and practice.

"À partir de 1600, les premières expéditions commerciales de commerçants malouins ou Dieppois sont régulièrement lancées vers l'Asie. Une série d'éphémères compagnies de commerce qui bénéficient par lettres patentes d'un monopole commercial sont lancées (Compagnie Le Roy et Godefroy en 1604 devenue Compagnie des Moluques en 1615, Compagnie de Montmorency pour les Indes orientales, créée en 1611 par Charles de Montmorency-Damville, Amiral de France). Elles ne génèrent pas un courant commercial significatif d'autant que leurs vaisseaux sont systématiquement détruits ou confisqués par les Hollandais de la VOC (compagnie hollandaise des Indes orientales)." http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compagnie_n%C3%A9erlandaise_des_Indes_orientales

We are going to link some article here for cross references and studying purpose



Yet what is said of Vasco da Gama the Famous Portuguese and other English Navigator/Explorer

" L'arrivée de Richelieu au pouvoir en 1624 et la signature du traité de Compiègne avec les Provinces-Unies (Pays-Bas) qui reconnaît la liberté du commerce vers les « Indes occidentales et orientales » relance l'activité des Français en direction de l'Asie avec un double but, missionnaire et commercial. La route terrestre est explorée avec le réseau des frères capucins du Père Joseph et c'est un missionnaire – Pacifique de Provins – qui réussit à établir en 1628 des liens officiels entre la France et la Perse ouvrant par le golfe Persique la route de l'Inde.

L'ordonnance royale de 1629, dite code Michau, encourage les Français à créer des compagnies de commerce à l'image des Hollandais et des Anglais.

À partir des années 1630, les Français s'intéressent au sud de l'océan indien et prennent possession de sites et de ports – notamment Fort-Dauphin et Port-Louis – à Madagascar et dans les Mascareignes (île Bourbon, île de France, île Rodrigues) ; La compagnie d'Orient est créée par lettre patente de juillet 1642 avec monopole de 15 ans sur Madagascar et les îles environnantes.

Au-delà de ces îles, la route des Indes est reprise par des missionnaires sous l'impulsion du jésuite Alexandre de Rhodes et de la Compagnie du Saint-Sacrement et qui privilégie la péninsule indochinoise."

Jean Cousin (navigateur)
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Cousin_(navigateur)

La Question Jean Cousin
http://fr.wikisource.org/wiki/La_Question_Jean_Cousin

"Histoire du Brésil français au siezième siècle"
http://archive.org/stream/histoiredubrsi00gaff/histoiredubrsi00gaff_djvu.txt

Compagnie française des Indes orientales
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compagnie_fran%C3%A7aise_des_Indes_orientales

Indian Ocean
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Ocean

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